2. The Bronze Screen

September 4 & 6: 

FILM: The Bronze Screen (screening in class)
DISCUSSION: Caroline Nieto, Ning He & Amanda Aw Yong

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35 Responses to 2. The Bronze Screen

  1. yininghe says:

    Hi everyone, our presentation slides for The Bronze Screen have been uploaded here. We can continue our discussion on the persistence of stereotypes of latinas here on the blog.

  2. What were the FIVE adjectives describing Latinas you wrote down while watching the documentary? Please list them here.

    • yininghe says:

      My five were: violent, loose, unfaithful, fiery, and a pinup.

      Many of them have to do with their being sexualized and more likely to engage in sexual flirtation than other women. Their emotions are always portrayed to be very ‘on the surface’ and cannot be controlled.

    • alexismruiz says:

      The five words that I wrote down during the documentary were: violent, sexy, romantic, fiery, and beautiful.

    • carolynluby says:

      I have feisty, exotic, spicy, hypersexualized, lustful. These words are all referring to the latina identity as being sexualized, and they are common stereotypes also found in film today.

    • Skylar Smith says:

      My five adjectives are seductive, fiery, sexy, excitable, and exotic (although they are all generalizations).

    • The five words that I would use to describe the documentary were Spicy, Promiscuous, Attitude, Loud, and Sexy.

    • The five adjectives describing latinas that i wrote while watching the bronze screen were,
      firey, exotic, pin up (with Rita Hayworth), intelligence, and beauty.

    • Kelvin Li says:

      They mentioned that Latinas tend to be passionate, feisty, sexy, lustful and loud. You still do see this today in modern media. Whether it’s Ugly Betty, George Lopez or Modern Family. They constantly portray Latin women as these stereotypes to either make fun or get the point across. I fell it would be more of statement if you normally don’t see a Latina act this way. What if she grew up in a white family or a asian family? This would be more funny because it’s something that we are not used to.

  3. morgankamm says:

    feisty, sexualized, vulgar, seductive, exotic

  4. The 5 words I wrote down were vicious, provocative, gorgeous, bizarre, and aggressive.

  5. scandalous, scary, dirty, hyper sexualized, romantic

  6. Ernie Abreu says:

    The five words that came up to mind were bad tempered, curvy, feisty, exotic, and unappreciated. I feel that latinas are unappreciated no matter the effort they put into their actions and no matter how positive their actions may be.

  7. sorlyz says:

    I was able to write down five adjectives and phrases that were used in Bronze Screen to describe Latinas. Dimwitted, women of violent nature, and naturally spicy were a few words used. They also portrayed Latinas as fiery and hot-headed. My favorite adjective used was exotic.

  8. Lindsey Honig says:

    Five adjectives I wrote down from The Bronze Screen include violent, lustful, hot-blooded, exotic, and unfaithful. It is interesting to note that many of these stereotypes exist on screen to this day, despite the fact that the documentary was made ten years ago and includes content from the early 20th century.

  9. joserfigueroa says:

    Five things I wrote down from The Bronze Screen were exotic, underrated, sex symbol, spitfire, dark hair/eye. Though this documentary was made a decade ago, these “qualities” are still the overall expectation of a Latina. Years have gone by, but not much has changed.

  10. Adam Lang says:

    Why is it that Latina women are still portrayed as hypersexual, exotic, and hot-headed to this day? It seems that ever since the beginning of film Latinas have been portrayed like this and it seems like not much has changed. For every film like Real Women Have Curves, there are countless more television shows, advertisements, and movies that play on the stereotypes created by Hollywood. People’s awareness of these stereotypes and their perpetuation by the media needs to be increased greatly. Many people take what they see in the media at face value, but we should be looking deeper into it and analyzing the images that we are bombarded by daily.

    • stephaniegiannoutsos says:

      I completely agree and I ask myself the same questions about why or how these stereotypes are still prevalent, even decades later. Just the other weekend I met somebody and he found out I was Colombian. The first thing he says is, “Woah, are you crazy? I heard all Colombian women are crazy.” This just goes to show how the stereotypical images/ideas people see in the media really permeate into their everyday lives.

      • Mariah Monroe says:

        Stephanie, I am so sorry to hear that. It’s such a shame that even in the 21st century, people still like to generalize and group people. The media is to blame for what I like to call the ‘grouping effect’. Thanks to the media, our society feels as though whole groups of people are always a certain way. This unfortunate belief has led to a very jaded society.

    • alexandriagarry says:

      It is fascinating to me how as a society we grasp onto medias portrayals of ethnic groups. I think it might have something to do with our fear of things that are different and unknown and a natural human need to be superior. I may being over analyzing the psychology but I truly think that the reason these types of caricatures continue to prevail is because it makes us feel better about ourselves by putting another race down. The fear of the unknown also stops us from looking deeper into these cultures I think the general populous likes to assume that they already know everything, therefore they have no need to investigate.

      • Kelvin Li says:

        I completely agree and I think people are not use to change. I think ethnicities have to be a portrayed a certain way because that’s what we are taught to do. I get stereotyped and criticized all the time. Oh where are you from? Oh, that’s not how a normally Chinese person acts? I think every ethnicity face the same issues because society is constantly shown and taught that this is what certain people must be. It’s like when people see gay couples walking down the street. Some people are like oh my god, what are they doing? It’s a reaction and I think because most part of the country don’t experience it in real life, they don’t really know how else to judge these people. Places in Connecticut, New York, California is very diverse so people see what happens and they know that everyone is different. But if you go to Nebraska or Kansas, it’s not that diverse so people do classify certain races by their ethnic background. Its what they see through media but they constantly show the same thing over and over again. They are afraid of change and what people might think.

  11. Katie Blake says:

    The five words I wrote down are “greasers”, “loose morals”, “latin lovers”, “hot-blooded”, and “violent.” These all are derogatory terms and I noticed that in the movies described in the film from the early 20th century that many Latino actors/actresses did not play respectable characters. Though it is true that not much has changed in the U.S. since then in regards to Latinas in the media, at least in today’s movies there are much more latinos/latinas playing respectable characters instead of being forced to play a “greaser” or “latin lover.”

  12. rserreti says:

    The five adjectives that I got from this presentation were fiery, provocative, vulgar, unfaithful and sexy.

  13. Stacey Pecor says:

    The five I came up with while watching the documentary were hot-blooded, curvy, exotic, aggressive and hyper sexualized.

  14. stephaniegiannoutsos says:

    The 5 adjectives I wrote were: promiscuous, sassy, exotic, loose morals, and hot-blooded.

  15. elizabethkparsons says:

    My five adjectives were: spicy, sexy, violent, dignified, and virginal.

  16. Hailey Rosa says:

    My five descriptions: violent nature, loose morals, savage, exotic, and pin-up.

    In addition to the many topics we discussed today in class there was another that we did not have time to touch on, and those are the stereotypes expressed or reinforced by the movie Real Women Have Curves. The article assigned addresses a few of the common roles in which a Latina is cast, “Representations of Latinas in cinema have historically been sparse and stereotypical-limiting them to roles such as the spitfire, the clown and the dark lady (pg 113). In addition, the archetypes of the maid, “welfare queen” and hot tomale are noted on pages 114 and 116. These traditional roles have been introduced to us via the film The Bronze Screen, and we are able to see some development in the way Latinas are cast.
    Although Selena still abides by the traditional virgin/whore dichotomy, she uses her tomale label in order to assert her own agency. Carmen (Ana’s mom) conforms to the “archetype of the asexual mother who is not sexually deviant and is invested in patriarchal and heteronormative norms (pg 121).” Ana breaks away from the submissive, virginal mold she is supposed to fill in order to express her own sexuality and attain her own freedom outside of her mother’s limited scope.
    It is clear that both Selena and Ana break cultural stereotypes while reinforcing others, however both females are ultimately agents of their own lives. They are not defined in the ways akin to Rita Hayworth, Lupe Velez, and Rita Moreno.

  17. jessicadiaz009 says:

    The five words that I wrote down that I pulled from the documentary were: fiesty, exotic, loose morals, and virginal. Despite the overwhelming amount of stereotypes of latinas, they all seem to contradict each other. I don’t understand how a virginal latina must also be such a sex symbol in her industry.

  18. briannamartone12 says:

    I choose these words to desribe Latinas in “The Bronze Film”… Bossy,Emotional, Expressive,volumptuous, and Energetic. Although sometimes in each clip, women were portrayed a bit differently than the women shown before them, overall they still shared many of the qualities on my list. I noticed that many of them had a recognizable accent and were full of energy or contrasting that they were emotional but either way they never resembled a calm personality.

  19. Michael Pavia says:

    The five words that I would use to describe the documentary were feisty, exotic, provocative, sexy and unappreciated.

  20. Caroline/a Nieto says:

    I feel like the Bronze Screen really allowed us to understand the main stereotypes that most people identify with Latinas, and what stereotypes have come and gone with the different ages of film and entertainment. I would say the 5 characteristics that we say in the film were Fiery, Loose, Unfaithful, Quick Tongued and Voluptuous. All of these traits we still see in the media today, prime examples which we see in media. Fiery we can look at Sophia Vergadas character in Modern Family. She isn’t scared to say what she think and she vocalizes things in a strong fiery, latina manner. Loose morals we can see with Eva Longoria’s character in Modern House wives. In class, during my group presentation, we watched a clip where she is cheating on her husband because he upsets her. We also see this loose characteristics in older “Cowboy and Indian” films where the Latinas seem to be the Loose character that lull men in. Unfaithful ties hand in hand with this as well. Quick Tongued we can see with Lupe Velez, who is usually also nicknamed the Mexican Spitfire. Voluptuous can be seen easily with the picture we use in this blog and also in every film we have seen in class. Every Latina is portrayed as super voluptuous and curvy– and if she isn’t then there is something “wrong” with her.

  21. alexandriagarry says:

    The five adjectives used to describe Latinas based on the Bronze Screen were:
    1. Sexy
    2. Latin Lover
    3. Exotic
    4. Feisty
    5. Spitfire
    I found it interesting how it seemed that the progress of Latinas in the film industry is stuck in a loop. They go from being the low income working class, to the villain, to the exotic latin lover and then they go back to being the maid. The film discussed how many Latinas died their hair blonde because being a brunette meant that you were the “bad girl”, villain. Blonde hair was the symbol of the heroin. In the society we are in now Latinas are once again being portrayed as the “sexy firecracker” I do not know what it will take to break this cycle, perhaps the approach of Selena Gomez where her Latina roots are more in the background of her roles. She plays characters in which race is not a factor. I think the question is are the portrayal of cultures helpful or hurtful to the society in the way people perceive Latinas?

  22. Mariah Monroe says:

    My five adjectives were: sexy, hot-tempered, exotic, provocative, and sassy.

    Latin women have been portrayed in such ways for decades now. It’s disappointing to see that after all this time, there hasn’t been much positive growth in the depiction of Latinas in the film industry. This ‘sexy spit-fire’ stereotype is stuck in perpetual motion. Their constant roles as low-income characters only adds to the misconception that all Latinas are low-class sex objects rather than respectable hardworking individuals. This misrepresentaion must change and this degrading cycle must be broken.

    All of us play a role in breaking this cycle. We can not solely rely on people of influence, although their assistance is necessary in order to reach a larger platform. Though I think we are on the right track to breaking out of this mold, shows like Modern Family and Desperate Housewives do not aid in the progress of Latin women in the media–Lets work on breaking this mold and progressing to a stronger, more respected Latin woman.

  23. Kelvin Li says:

    There hasn’t been a huge change of how Hollywood wants to portray Latin women. They seem to keep their values constant throughout the years of time. The only thing the change is the over hyping of sexualization. The make things more sexualized and more funny. They don’t give Latinas a different roles because they are afraid to take a chance. What if the movie doesn’t turn out to be this successful? I think they also try to relate it back to people. Who are they targeting? Most movies try to target American people who live an American dream. So they continue to show how an American must act or what they should do. They don’t show the different possibilities. Most of the people in the country are getting more diverse. Why not appeal to them? Is it because people with ethnic background are so hard to market? I don’t think so.

    Film producers and movie companies are put in the idea that this is what sells. They categorize women the same way. Although, you can definitely tell they stereotype the Latin women even more. Not all Latin women work as maids, not all them have 10 kids. No, that’s not a whole representation of a culture. It’s the same thing for Americans. That’s not how every American dream is, not everyone has the freedom and success to make money. I think we show this on film as an example of what we strive for. I think they try to change the views and values of many ethnic society. They want to Americanize people but they fail to realize that most people have their own ethnic values. It’s all about politics and they want to control and regulate what people should get out of a movie. They don’t show the Mexican aspect or Irish or British. It’s because we are in America and they want to sell us the tradition of how we should act. It’s like their trying to convert our religion. Why can’t we be our own and mix all these cultures together? Makes the culture more diverse and this could be the new stepping stone that people strive for. It doesn’t have to be stereotyped that this culture has to be a certain way. But people can choose how to act and make them more aware.

  24. My five adjectives were: Feisty, hot-tempered, sexy, vulgar, and promiscuous

    I believe that media has come full-circle since the beginning of film. During the early 1900s, it has been noted in history that audience members in movie theaters would jump out of their seats during “The Great Train Robbery” as the train moves forward on the screen. This shows the heavy impact that film media had on its earliest viewers, showing how real they saw the film to be. In relation to Latina portrayals, I can assume that if the viewers thought the train on the screen was real, then they thought the portrayals of Latinas in the movies were realistic as well.

    As film progressed, I believe the general audience understood reality from fiction a little better, but video games are slowly thinning that line once again. With the new consoles, gamers can control actions using their bodies, like with the Wii and Kinnect. This takes shooting a gun by pressing a button on a controller, to shooting a simulated gun in your hand. Secondly, the portrayals of Latinas in these realistic games are not so realistic. For example, Grand Theft Auto is filled with violence, theft (duh), and scandal,,,,and many of the characters in the game are Latina and Latino.

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